Jesus and the Glory Seekers: Mark 10: 35-45

For his December Bash, Don takes a close and insightful look at Mark’s gospel and Jesus’ interactions with James and John, who wish to be seated at Jesus’ side and share in his glory. Or, so they say when they ask Jesus to do something for them.

In his reading, Don peels back the layers of this story to expose what appears to be a first-century, discipleship power-grab. And, of course, Don has some thoughts about this, as well as Jesus’ revealing response to James and John.

After some lively discussion, Liam shares another text: a reading from Steven Charleston’s Ladder to the Light: An Indigenous Elder’s Meditations on Hope and Courage (Broadleaf Books, 2021).

From Ladder to the Light: An Indigenous Elder’s Meditations on Hope and Courage:

Justice does not just happen. Compassion is not a spectator sport, but something I have to exercise as I roll up my sleeves to do my part in creating a better community.I need to put in my hours as a volunteer. I have to join the prayer crew and put my life on the line to make a difference. The world will change not by wishes, but by the labor of love we call faith. Spirituality is not a spa, but a construction site, where we build hope one heart at a time.

…we need to remember we are here to serve others. This is not all about us and it never has been. It is about community. It is about the tribe of the human beings. We have a constituency as people of faith. There are other human beings and other life forms we work for.

They are listening. The poor are listening for the word of justice to give them hope. The lonely are listening for the sound of a caring heart. The abused and broken are listening for the healing sound of mercy. The fearful are listening for a word of truth that can set them free. Many people listening, but what are they hearing? Break their silence with the sound of the words the Spirit has given you. Speak hope and mercy, speak justice and truth, say what you believe that will heal and help. Now is not the time to be quiet, for there is an ocean of listening all around you, waiting for the word of life.

What made my ancestors strong, what allowed them to survive, was faith. A faith practiced every day, recreating reality one step at a time.


In Trans-Forming Proclamation, Liam Hooper tenderly explores gender and the Bible. This book actually defies genre. With rich patches of poetry, memoir, and devotional, Liam weaves together inspiring literary insights with grounded, original, and informed scholarship. Trans-Forming proclamation: A Transgender Theology of Daring Existence is new wine in a new wine skin. It is Inventive, artful, and liberating. Available on Amazon and published by Otherwise Engaged.  

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In each episode of Bible Bash Podcast, , Liam Michael Hooper, a white trans Bible scholar and Don Durham, a white, cis, heterosexual farmer, minister, and podcaster take turns presenting the text. They then discuss. In addition, each episode they present another text, a non-Biblical text of note–religious or secular–that may or may not correspond to the Bible text. 

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2 comments on “Jesus and the Glory Seekers: Mark 10: 35-45

  1. Alice Canestaro-Garcia says:

    Peterson Toscano was in San Antonio, Texas to present at Trinity University some years ago. I’ve been looking for one of the New Testament passages Peterson so compellingly, so beautifully portrayed — the disciples were searching for a place to hold what we now call The Last Supper; Jesus directed them to ask a person / a man who drew water with the women. They would know the place.

    Please, what is this passage?

    1. Alice, I remember that presentation in San Antonio very well. It was a super visit and I remember the audience being very responsive. I tell this story you reference in my performance lecture Transfigurations–Transgressing Gender in the Bible. It was turned into a movie a few years back is available for streaming on Amazon Prime. You can also purchase a DVD of it (if you still use those) through

      I also wrote about that passage in Gender Outlaws–The Next Generation edited by S Bear Bergman and Kate Bornstein.
      I also talk about the story with Liam here on Bible Bash in the episode Man with a Pitcher of Water–Luke 22:10 which premiered on
      August 29, 2020.

      I hope that helps. All the best,

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