Ismael and Hagar — Genesis 16 and 21

Mother and son are brought into the family then become outsiders. Liam shares the moving story of Hagar and Ishmael and compares their experiences in Genesis chapters 16 and 21 to experiences of LGBTQ people today. 

Peterson then shares “another text,” and reads a passage from the ancient poem, The Epic of Gilgamesh

In each episode of Bible Bash Podcast, Peterson and co-host, Liam Michael Hooper, a Trans Bible scholar, take turns presenting the text. They then discuss. In addition, each episode they present another text, a non-Biblical text of note–religious or secular–that may or may not correspond to the Bible text. 

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