Giants in the Land Face a Different Spirit–Numbers 13, 14

After a summer holiday, the Bible Bash team has returned! This month, Liam takes a look at the story in Numbers 13 and 14 – the story of the Hebrew scouts, which reveals the reason the people were destined to wander for 40 years before entering the promised land.

Liam raises important questions: 

  • Is this story of the scouts a story of failing faith, as we are so often told, or is it something more?
  • What about Caleb’s “different spirit”?
  • Is a brave and unfettered “different spirit” the way into the promised land for all of us? 

Don offers a reading from Feminist thinkers Rosemarie Tong and Tina Fernandes Botts. Don’s reading is found in the book, Feminist Thought: A More Comprehensive Introduction 

Featured music Beyond the Rainbow by Polor Nights from Epidemic Sound


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About US

In each episode of Bible Bash Podcast, , Liam Michael Hooper, a white trans Bible scholar and Don Durham, a white, cis, heterosexual farmer, minister, and podcaster take turns presenting the text. They then discuss. In addition, each episode they present another text, a non-Biblical text of note–religious or secular–that may or may not correspond to the Bible text. 

Bible Bash Podcast is a collaborative project created by Liam Hooper, Don Durham, and Peterson Toscano.  

Our theme song is Playbill by The Jellyrox. It is available on iTunes, Spotify, or through Rock Candy Recordings. The show is edited by Peterson Toscano

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